MLT Club Member Jung Roe
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That Shangri-La song as I listened to it, reminded me of another sad song about tragedy, and is very much like a musical play with operatic elements. Perhaps Queen took some inspiration from Shangri-La’s “I Can Never Go Home”, and “She’s Going Home”.
On another note, I was never into opera, but Bohemian Rhapsody gives you a feeling for the passion opera fans feel for opera.
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Wow David, that is an interesting concept. Sounds like something Bach would do, or have done in many of his abstract works. In fact I am pretty sure he has done it within a piece, inverting a melodic line creating negative harmony. Now “Help” I am sure would sound even more interesting if it went through a repeating cycle of negative harmony. Perhaps to Phil’s point, changing a well known song we are all used to into negative harmony, would yield a negative experience to most as it is not what our brain is used to. However, I think if it was done on a song that no one really knows, and you did two versions, applying negative harmony to one, the two versions would be in fact interesting.
Taking the concept of negative harmony a little further, to key change, apparently the Beatles “Now and Then” goes through key change of minor to major and then back to minor again. It takes you from a melancholic mood to a positive upbeat mood, and then back to melancholic again. In the same vein, if you took “Now and Then” and took it from a major to minor and back to major key, it would have a more uplifting mood, going from a happy mood to melancholic, and back to happy again.
Chopin’s Funeral March is a great example, where the music starts off in a very sombre minor dissonant key, and about a 3rd way into it, it shifts to a major key, and then back to minor towards the end. To me it is the experience of the sadness of a funeral, where it is very sad and painful, and then you begin remembering the good times and love and there is a shift to major, and your mood changes to feelings of joy and happiness, but then towards the end, it shifts back minor, bringing you back to reality and the loss that is inescapable. Music and art expresses the human experience, so the consonance and dissonance in music, and shifting between the two is so very important in expressing the human experience.
I hope I didn’t go off on a tangent too much, but the discussion of negative harmony, made me think of how amazing music is in creating different moods and emotions.
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Hi Jacki
Love these, they have such a groovy 60ish vibe, and the purple shades really pop. I like the fairy dust glitter in the first one.
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY JACKI. Hope you have a most wonderful day. I thought I’d share this beautiful poem I came across:
May your birthday be filled with joy and love,
And blessings from the heavens up above.
May you find happiness in every moment,
And know that you are cherished and adored.
Happy Birthday, my dear friend!
Big hugs🤗🌹
Jung
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I find it really fascinating how movement between notes create emotion and the tension and release aspect, like your mind anticipates what the next note should be, and if you don’t get it, it leaves you hanging. Music is also defined as the movement between notes. It is also interesting the mathematical relationship there, where a symmetrical opposite in emotion can exists across the harmonic axis in the circle of 5ths. They say math is in everything, even in emotions as felt musically.
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Wow, they are pretty good rock and roll musicians. The drummer is great. Perhaps the harder rock and roll is a lot more prevalent than I thought in Korea.
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Hi Jurgen
Yeah one of the attractions are the many street food markets like this, and despite the portability of these food places, they are pretty safe as far as cleanliness and quality goes. The officials keep on top of the vendors to ensure the food is clean and safe, otherwise it would be a disaster for tourism. There are some foods even I would find challenging and would not dare to try like the blood sausage, or any seafood still moving, but some many great soul foods I love like Gim Bop (seaweed wrapped Korean Sushi variant), BinDaeDuk (Mung Bean Pancakes like how my mom used to make), Tteok Bok Ki (spicy rice cake/noodles in tangy red hot sauce) etc…..
In the smaller towns, you could probably get by with English enough to communicate some rudimentary words as English is a regular curriculum taught in elementary/high school. To succeed in business you have to have some basic English proficiency in Korea. English gives people the competitive advantage in the work places.
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Hey Mike
Yeah Elton John is great, and growing up when I was in high school in the 70s, Elton John dominated the charts for years, hit after hit. I had a friend who had all his records, so I got a lot of exposure to Elton John in my teens. I think for while in the 70s, he was like the Beatles. I had a quick look at his stats, and 27 US top 10 songs, with 9 of them reaching #1 in a span of a decade or so. The Rolling Stones in comparison in a longer span had 23 top 10 songs and 8 of them reaching #1.
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Wow David, this is a pretty dramatic and emotionally gripping song for sure. It is like a musical play/drama in a song. I’m not very familiar with Mary Weiss, though I know of Shangri-La’s iconic “Leader of the Pack”, but it’s sad the world lost a big music talent.
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Hi Jurgen, thanks for posting that Monalisa Magazin video. That was one of the very first videos I found on youtube when I discovered them many moons ago now, and was intrigued. The short clip of them singing The Wide, Wide, Land by the river is so heartwarming. I don’t know what it is but always like hearing them speak German and sing in German too. That’s part of the reason I love their Aufsteh’n so much, they do both German and a little English. I think some rock songs sound good in German, perhaps that’s why Falco was so successful with his German rock songs in the early 80s like Der Kommisar and Rock Me Amadeus and Nena’s 99 Luftballoons. When I first heard Rock Me Amadeus in German, I loved it. It’s probably one of my top fave 80s songs.
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That was fun and interesting Tom. I didn’t know they spoke German in Switzerland, and that the dialect was that different between Austrian, Swiss, and German German to the point someone in one country would have difficulty understanding the German of another.
It’s interesting, the Korean my siblings and parents speak is 60’s Korean we brought over to North America and we speak it just like it was in the 60’s. MJ and my brother’s wife notice many of the terms we use are no longer popular or even used in Korea and the Korean has in fact evolved significantly over 60 years compared to the 60s snapshot Korean our family has been using all this time. Occasionally there are words or expressions that I or my siblings use that MJ and my brothers wife don’t understand, or laugh at because no one says those things any more. So I can see how a language like German, or French or any other language for that matter can diverge and change over time between geographies and countries as the language does evolve significantly over just a few decades.
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Wow Jurgen, it is great to see traditional Rock and Roll alive and well in Korea and followers of rock. Rolling Quartz is very good, and the lead singer is great too. I haven’t heard a Korean hard rock song before like this, very nice to hear. It’s great to see that under the dominance of KPOP, there are great independent artists across many genres there.
In 2007 in my time touring Busan, where I was born, we spent a couple days in Gyeoungju, and some of the ancient temples and grounds look familiar in the video. We hired a local taxi driver to drive us around all day and take us to all the best places to see, and it was a lot of fun, and not that expensive considering the personal tour we received. If you travel Korea, that might be a great way to get a nice tour of an area by someone local who knows the area very well. Back in 95 when we visited, my aunt hired a taxi and took us all over Seoul like that. The taxi drivers in both instances were very friendly and informative and took pride in showing off their city.
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That can be a slow process, they have to check out every fire hydrant too. 😁
I really like the little presentation plastic sleeve and card board backing it comes with. I saved mine so I can put the pin back in it. The pin is really elegant, I love the black and white and gold trimming design. It symbolizes pride, and being a part of something really great and special.
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Hi JP
You are an MLT trooper to dial in like that even on the road, so as not to miss the livestream. Your presence will always be felt when I watch the livestream recording. A live performance of their songs to their fans like that clearly across the globe was brilliant, leveraging technology to stay close to their fans.
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What a fascinating documentary Jurgen. I’ve been to Jeju Island where those famous “Haenyeo” diving women live. They are pretty famous in Korea, the tradition they keep. The youngest in the group are in their 60s, right up to the 94 year old lady who can dive and hold her breath for up to 2 minutes. Next time I feel a little, “I’m too old” about something, I should watch these ladies. So those Racoon dogs we saw in one of the MLT videos live in Korea, in the southern part of the Korean Peninsula, in the area I was born. The video really shows a side of Korea I haven’t seen a lot of. A lot of natural beauty and unique wildlife there. Thanks for my Korea education Jurgen! 😁